Van hubs and discs on a car?

[onza100]

Was just wondering if I could swap the discs and hubs on my car to van ones? The main reason being that the van has a different p.c.d. Which if my understanding is correct would allow me a wider choice of alloy wheels. Or is it just a daft idea!
Thanks,
Paul

[E_T_V]

Not a silly idea at all it can and indeed has been done.

[onza100]

So am I right in thinking that the van has a p.c.d of 100?

[E_T_V]

Yes thats right 100mm. Well they better bloomin had be as I've just bought a set of R200 alloys for my van!

[onza100]

Thanks for your help, all I need to do now is get the parts then! I assume that the van has the same offset as the car? Was planing on geting new brakes anyway so thats two birds with one stone, great!

[Alan the Vanner]

Hmph! I've been trying to do it the other way round!
I got the hubs and axle flanges measured up and made a drawing for some adaptor plates. (NVQ's in Engineering, you know!) Only trouble is, An ex colleague who still works in engineering and works part-time at the local battle cruiser broke his foot last week and is off work for 8 weeks and cannot make them up for me:banghead:
Oh well, time to shop around for all the other bits!:rolleyes:

[onza100]

So are they not just a straight swop then alan? Why do you want car discs and hubs?

[Alan the Vanner]

Originally posted by onza100
So are they not just a straight swop then alan? Why do you want car discs and hubs?
Nah, nothing is interchangable. Tried all the parameters. (GCSE in typing, you know!:rolleyes: )
It's only because I can then fit some MG alloy rims on.

[E_T_V]

Just a thought but you can put MG alloys on from the newer MG's ZR's etc, onto the van hubs. I've got some rover badged ones that should look tidy after a refurb for my camper

[Alan the Vanner]

Aw! I've changed the front hubs over now.
Don't want to leave the vented discs and Monty turbo calipers unused!
I have the rear hubs from said Monty as well!:D

[onza100]

If you managed to get car hubs on your van what chance of me fiting the van hubs on the car? What exactly are the differences?

[Alan the Vanner]

The rears would need a form of adaptation. (What I am currently working on sorting out)
As for the fronts, all you need to do is replace the swivel hub assemblies. Pretty straightforward, that.;)

[onza100]

Have been talking to P.A.W about their big disc kit and they will do me discs with 100mm PCD that will fit straight on. So I have the same problem as you but the other way round! Back hubs!
On the car the hub assembely is bolted to the back axle with four bolts how is it on the van?

[derek mclean]

I think the van hubs have a bigger p.c.d. than 100mm. It may vary with the van weight rating, but I have one with the same p.c.d. as an 820, and I think it is 110mm. Or it may even be four and a half inches. I suggest you measure it carefully before deciding which wheels to get.

Derek.

[Alan the Vanner]

Originally posted by onza100
On the car the hub assembely is bolted to the back axle with four bolts how is it on the van? [/B]

It's the same story for the van, except that they are equally spaced so they can fit around the flanges on the axle beam.

[derek mclean]

Van wheel stud p.c.d.

I checked today, using a wheel that I know is compatible with an 820, and it is, as I suspected, four and a half inches. I also know that some wheels were taken off an 820 and fitted to a van that I have a share in. I believe it is a 700 van. The lower-rated one may have different wheels, but I can't imagine why they would have wanted to have three different hub and wheel designs. So I would say that if the wqheels on a particular van are not the same as car wheels they are almost certain to be the ones with the four and a half inch p.c.d. This also gives anybody that has these hubs a wider choice of wheels to suit the hubs. Honda Accord, some Nissans I think, maybe other Japanese, A60, etc.

I've never checked, but I suspect the rear hubs may be interchangeable with the car ones as complete assemblies. They are just bolted on to the relevant axle.

Personally, I would still prefer a disc set-up, at least for rallying. I may still do this if I ever decide to use a Maestro for rallying again.

Derek.

[onza100]

Would have liked discs on the back of my car but have read that this really doesn't work that well so think sticking to drums would be the easy option. I think im going to have to get hold of some van back hub assembleys and see what the differences are.

Thanks for your help everyone.
Paul

[Bertybassett]

Hello Onza100,

From what I have read, the late Rover branded maestro vans have the same PCD as current rover models e.g. 25/45/75. I guess its just the hub which is different not the hub carrier itself. Being as is bloody difficult getting the hubs off without destroying the bearings. I would get hold of the entire hub carrier and swap them lock stock and barrel. Now regarding the rears. Just whips the rear discs off a rover 220/420/620 and redrill the rear axle to fit. et voila rear disc conversion. Then a nice rear barke bias adjuster to sort your bias job done. Cheaper/wider choice of alloys and big discs. I will confirm all of this when i get to see a late Rover branded maestro van.

[talkingcars]

IIRC the van has larger rear drums than the cars.

I beleive the normal drum to disc conversion on the car uses VW golf G60 discs, motobuild tried this and wern't happy with the brake bias adjustment so went back to drums.

[speedy1]

This topic is the similar to my post of 'which wheels do i use'.

I have a G reg van & i have tried a pair of steel wheels from a G reg rover 216 & they do not fit.

Saying that, i own 2 rover 820's and the wheels from those fit straight on, but the tyres rub the suspension

:(

[Beaker]

Originally posted by derek mclean
I think the van hubs have a bigger p.c.d. than 100mm. It may vary with the van weight rating, but I have one with the same p.c.d. as an 820, and I think it is 110mm. Or it may even be four and a half inches. I suggest you measure it carefully before deciding which wheels to get.

Derek.

I think you may be right, as our hubs are bigger than 100mm. 114/115mm ish with a tape measure.

[H536NOG]

Hmmmm now there's an interesting prospect :idea:
I wonder..............
Originally posted by Bertybassett
Now regarding the rears. Just whips the rear discs off a rover 220/420/620 and redrill the rear axle to fit. et voila rear disc conversion. Then a nice rear barke bias adjuster to sort your bias job done.