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bod
7th November 2003, 11:37
hello every one hope someone can help me.Me and my wife have owned montego 2.0 contryman L reg for nearly 3 years . But the last 12 months the car engine runs all over the place when it gets to running temp . I have change so far both ecu fuel and ignition ht lead plug the whole exhaust sytem including cat because it blew .the whole problem started when the cat blew . i went to my main rover dealer but they could not help. oh the spark plug are pure white :banghead: :banghead: Help or any advice would be grateful
Beaker
7th November 2003, 12:03
Sounds like it is running to lean with white spark plugs.
Lindz
G Force
7th November 2003, 12:09
Hi there, spark plugs that are white in colour would usuually indicate that the air/fuel mixture is too weak, this can cause poor performance and rough running. As for the cause you need to supply a little more info, such as symptoms, carb or injection etc.
cheers gary
bod
7th November 2003, 12:42
Originally posted by G Force
Hi there, spark plugs that are white in colour would usuually indicate that the air/fuel mixture is too weak, this can cause poor performance and rough running. As for the cause you need to supply a little more info, such as symptoms, carb or injection etc.
cheers gary
our montego is fuel injection automatic. the car runs fine on choke but as soon as it comes off choke the tickover go all over the place and it keeps stalling all time when u stop say at road junction when in gear :banghead: :banghead: :D
E_T_V
7th November 2003, 13:15
On the choke the mixture is richened to make the car run ok. When it warms up the car leans out the mixture and this is causing the rough running. Are all the spark plugs the same colour, if only one or two are white it could be blocked injectors? If they are all white it may just need re-tuning (although I've not got a clue how to do that on a fuel injected car yet).
MGTurbo
7th November 2003, 14:24
Mixture not really adjustable, i'd be looking for air leaks, check vacuum hoses, manifold gaskets etc.
Gareth
threelitre
7th November 2003, 17:09
If you gat a cat in it, might it be that the lambda sensor has gone?
As this will regulate the amount of fuel injected.
Alexander
bod
7th November 2003, 17:54
Originally posted by threelitre
If you gat a cat in it, might it be that the lambda sensor has gone?
As this will regulate the amount of fuel injected.
Alexander
tried one off another car made no diffrence also replaced fuel ecu under dash
E_T_V
7th November 2003, 20:25
Maybe a longshot but what about the crank position sensor? Is their an airflow sensor on them too? If so it might be that.
tony
7th November 2003, 20:58
i would agree that it sounds like a air leak somewhere,maybe one or more of the rubber pipes are spliting near the end of them,.allso i would take out the crank position sensor and give it a clean ,they allways benifit from it
MGTurbo
7th November 2003, 21:05
Cleaning the CPS won't do anything to affect the mixture, it would cause an intermittant starting/misfiring problem or total failure, it can be checked with a multi-meter but not worth taking off IMO.
Gareth
Landcrab1800
10th November 2003, 11:33
Hasd same problem with my 2 ltr MG with MEMS control units.
I changed the throttle switch, this is hidden behing the throttle pedal just below where the cable attaches.
Also, my home tune man had an old electrical box that allowed him to set my CO. It is now running at 2.05 instead of 2.5.
He also told me that the vacuum pressure into the ECU is critical. This also controls the mixture.
The vacuum pipe goes from the inlet to a unit on the bulkhead and then to the black box.
Hope this helps
Gordon
bod
10th November 2003, 16:40
Originally posted by Landcrab1800
Hasd same problem with my 2 ltr MG with MEMS control units.
I changed the throttle switch, this is hidden behing the throttle pedal just below where the cable attaches.
Also, my home tune man had an old electrical box that allowed him to set my CO. It is now running at 2.05 instead of 2.5.
He also told me that the vacuum pressure into the ECU is critical. This also controls the mixture.
The vacuum pipe goes from the inlet to a unit on the bulkhead and then to the black box.
Hope this helps
Gordon
cheers i will try that
:) :) :) :)
G Force
10th November 2003, 19:14
If you still have problems you could try disconnecting and plug up the pipe at the fuel pressure regulator. this will have the affect of richening the fuel mixture on idle and light throttle, if this improves drivabillity and idle quality, you may have a problem with glazed injectors which would require cleaning or renewing:)
Regards Gary
Landcrab1800
12th November 2003, 12:02
bod,
forgot to mention that to chech the throttle switch disconnect it. It should idle high.
If you change any componant on the MEMS system it takes a while (200 miles on mine)for the system to settle properly
Have fun the switch means sitting in the seat upside down.
Gordon
:laugh: :laugh:
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