window wireing

[TLC]

I need a w/diagram for a 4 door window lift.Its not in the manuals and id like to upgrade montys manual windows.:banghead:

[talkingcars]

Are you mk1 (switches in the door), mk2 (switches under the radio) or mk3(switches in the centre consol)?

The best way to do it is to find a monty with rear electrics and swap the components over, a lot of the wiring is in the main loom on some maestros, others have none.

And of course, you will find the wiring info/diagrams in the monty manuals.

[TLC]

Switches are not in place yet as i havent decided where to put them problebly inthe center console between the f/seats.I have to work out how the black box connects up and the manuals dont have that diagram.:banghead:

[Simon]

The Haynes 2.0 litre Montego manual has the diagrams of all 3 installations of elec.windows all round. What reg/year is your Montego and what model/cc is it?

[TLC]

My estate is a 1988 1600L .Ihave the components ect but the 4 door window black box has two multi plugs and i need to trace what wire goes where.:laugh:

[talkingcars]

I think the 88 will be a mk2 (sliding heater controls), if so the wiring will be in the loom, there will be the second plug behind the current 2 window control box and the power cables for the rear doors will plug in at the bottom of the B piller, not sure where the rear switches mount but the plugs should be there as well.

[Simon]

Do you like lots of work....

Ideally you will need to remove the dash and attack the fusebox and some of the main branch of loom behind the dash/heater in order to plumb in the second multi connector's wiring. There is a space for the rear windows in the Mk 2 fusebox. Do not forget that you will also need to tap into the red/orange lighting circuit to provide switch illumination for the rear switches. This is a massive job and is not to be taken on unless you fully understand the intricacies of the wiring. I've done this job on my 1988Maestro 1.6 so I can guide you specifically if you want. I had the dash out and quite a lot of car interior dismantled when I did mine. Only by wiring it in properly will you get a reliable and safe result. This is not a plug n play mod as such. Your rear door cards will also require modification which is quite easy.

It took me one and a half days to complete excluding removing the wiring from a Montego Mayfair, which was another 3 hours concentrated work in the scrapyard.

[talkingcars]

TLC - can you confirm what car you are fitting the windows to, reading your messeges it appears to be a 1988 1.6L Montego estate, is that correct?

[TLC]

Yes its a 1988 1600L Estate with manual windows.I have allthe parts but need to work out the wireing before i put the bit in the car.:banghead:

[TLC]

Oh iam not haveing rear switches as the only liveing things in the back will be the five dogs with the seats down:laugh:

[TLC]

I think the 88 will be a mk2 (sliding heater controls), if so the wiring will be in the loom, there will be the second plug behind the current 2 window control box and the power cables for the rear doors will plug in at the bottom of the B piller, not sure where the rear switches mount but the plugs should be there as well.
iam putting in a custom made wireing harness ;as i did with the wing mirrors.The wires that go into/out of the black box is what i need to know what connects to what so If the w/diagram is in the manual for the 2.0 models that will do.

[talkingcars]

Seems like hard work to put custom wiring in if it is already in the loom, my 89 Maestro 1.6L had wiring for front windows (never looked for rear), mirrors and central locking in the main loom.

[TLC]

Seems like hard work to put custom wiring in if it is already in the loom, my 89 Maestro 1.6L had wiring for front windows (never looked for rear), mirrors and central locking in the main loom.
There is no wireing into the door for any window so if theres a connector behind the dash ill have to find it,. but still need a diagram for it

[talkingcars]

In my maestro 1.6L the wiring was at the bottom of the B piller, you needed to plug the door loo into this.

The control box plug hangs down behind the control box.

If you find these you don't need the wiring diagram.

The mirror loom plugs were found in the dash at the ends and where the switch fits.

[Simon]

You will find the front loom hanging down on a 1.6L. The rear section will be missing.

[TLC]

Thanks Ill have a look under the dash:)

[Simon]

...and the rears won't work unless they are connected to the switches in the rear door as well as those in the dash switch unit.

[TLC]

So far i havent found any multi plugs hideing behind the dash or door pillers or any conection to the back of the fuse box. May be the estates are different.So iam going to make up my own loom to fit .All the windows will have to work from the drivers door bucket for my ease of use.yes i know hard work:laugh:

[Simon]

That sounds like a useful mod. As it stands, the window switches are a bit of a stretch when they are below the radio. Door bin mounted ones are preferable for many reasons.

[Jeff Turbo]

My Montego Advantage didn't have ANY spare plugs anywhere on the car. The wires for any additional electrics, mirrors, windows, were not in the fuse box either so you may not have any 'extra' wiring

[talkingcars]

The mk3 switch location is better for reach and for wiring being located in the centre consol either side of the handbrake. If you can find one in a scrapyard the sub loom goes accros the passanger footwell to a control box above the glovebox.