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[Quality]

Will this be your next buy?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2440693089&category=29753

[D87 SMW]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Oooooooooooooooo..... :cool:

[Liam]

Wow thats a tidy looking Allegro! Better nik than my measty anyway! Did you see then engine bay...........so full of empty space, an engine and a battery.

[MaestroMatt]

What a tiny engine! More space than anything else. Looks like a variation on the Maxi engine (and therefore Maestro R series) - doesn't seem to need to filter air ever, either!

[F690OTF(RIP)]

As you say, the Allegro 1500 was an E-Series engine like that in the Maxi, from which the R-Series was developed.

What else does it not have which makes the engine bay so much emptier than the Maestro's? :confused:

[MaestroMatt]

It seems to have everything in minature! It has tiny suspension mounting points, a minute screen wash reservoir and the smallest expansion tank in the world. The brake servo and master cylinder are also very small. The fuel pump must be down the back of the block somewhere and there are so few cooling system and oil breather hoses it is either very well designed or it is missing things like a heater. Where the alternator has been hidden is anybody's guess.

It is a daft car, but I'll bet it's easy to fix!

If you want an Allegro - and who wouldn't - then this is the one to have!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewItem&item=2441321012&category=29753

[threelitre]

Originally posted by MaestroMatt
It seems to have everything in minature! It has tiny suspension mounting points, a minute screen wash reservoir and the smallest expansion tank in the world. The brake servo and master cylinder are also very small. The fuel pump must be down the back of the block somewhere and there are so few cooling system and oil breather hoses it is either very well designed or it is missing things like a heater. Where the alternator has been hidden is anybody's guess.

It is a daft car, but I'll bet it's easy to fix!


Yepp, the E-series as fitted to Maxi and Allegro is one of the easiest engines to work on. Except valve clearance or gearbox work. But a clutch change will be done in about 30 mins, all ancillaries do sit at the front of the engine (and i mean all....). The alternator sits to the right and slightly below the distributor. The fuel pump is also at the front of the engine. The expansion tank is admittedly smaller on these older engines, but the Maxi at least heats up a lot better and quicker then my Maestros. The heater sits behind the bulkhead as on the Maestros and works to the same principle. The breather system is easier since it is not totally closed. There is one filter sitting on the clutch bell housing. But one must say, that the engine bay of an Allegro is really huge, so things like engine and brake servo look tiny. But the engine has the same dimensions as the R-series Maestro. The head is the same e.g. And well, here you can see how space efficient a Hydragas-setup is compared to the McPherson struts on the Maestro. On the Maxi the setup is even more efficient - you can hardly see anything under the bonnet. And there is no load from the suspension going on the inner wings, opposed to Maestro and Allegro, making it easier to design a stiff bodyshell.

Regards,

Alexander

[Rich]

Dont they have in sump gearboxes like the Metro? That may account for more space in the engine bay?

[BIGLAD]

Originally posted by Rich
Dont they have in sump gearboxes like the Metro? That may account for more space in the engine bay?

Yes the engine and gearbox share the same oil i seem to recall.

How about this for an idea then for the ultimate "Q" car- an Allegro with a Maestro/Montego or better still T16 Turbo!:eek: :eek: :eek:
Biglad

[threelitre]

Originally posted by BIGLAD
Yes the engine and gearbox share the same oil i seem to recall.

How about this for an idea then for the ultimate "Q" car- an Allegro with a Maestro/Montego or better still T16 Turbo!:eek: :eek: :eek:
Biglad

But you answered it yourself: They do have the transmission-in-sump setup. So a Maestro drivetrain would be to wide for the engine bay. The best thing for a quick Allegro would be in my opinion a well tuned A+-engine with a strengthened 5-speed box (like Jack Knight et al). The E-series is quite heavy and not soo easy to modify.

Cheers,
Alexander

[D87 SMW]

Pretty interested in this, though....

1989 Rover Maestro 1.6 SL. 51k.... £56 at the moment.

http://i19.ebayimg.com/02/i/00/f7/c6/2c_3.JPG

[BIGLAD]

Originally posted by threelitre
But you answered it yourself: They do have the transmission-in-sump setup. So a Maestro drivetrain would be to wide for the engine bay. The best thing for a quick Allegro would be in my opinion a well tuned A+-engine with a strengthened 5-speed box (like Jack Knight et al). The E-series is quite heavy and not soo easy to modify.

Cheers,
Alexander

Hi,
I have seen an Allegro with a Montego Turbo engine in previously. So width cannot be too much of a problem.It didnt look too out of place and the engine bay looked pretty standard. I don't think that the "bigger" head/inlet and water/pas pump on the T series would create that much extra hassle?
Biglad