Driving pet-hates. [Archive] - Maestro & Montego Owners Club

F690OTF(RIP)

9th October 2003, 21:47

People who don't know the width of their vehicle

People who drive along at 5-10mph below the speed limit but then speed up as soon as you're alongside

People who are (apparently) incapable of following lane markings

People who accelerate to tailgate you when you pull into a 10s gap in front of them on the motorway when you're doing the same speed they were

People who treat you as if you're the criminal for keeping to the speed limit

People who park small cars in large parking spaces when there are plenty of small ones vacant

I'm sure there are more, but trying to think of them will probably do more harm than good.

Peter

Austin-Rover

9th October 2003, 21:47

Originally posted by F170 GGT

People who switch off the ignition without switching off the wipers first.

I dont know how they get away with it! That must be the worst one of the lot!

:laugh: :p :laugh:

D87 SMW

9th October 2003, 21:55

Originally posted by RDGelder
I dont know how they get away with it! That must be the worst one of the lot!

:laugh: :p :laugh:

Still annoying! As if Fraud Mundaneos didn't look bad enough already, their owners leave the wipers half way up the screen! :eek: :rage:

tony

9th October 2003, 22:04

people that drive/live in the middle lane of a motorway
people that dont light up even when its almost dark
people that are turning left and dont indicate when i am at the same junction wanting to pull out
doh

Jonathan

9th October 2003, 23:07

For most of us probably just about anything else on the road that gets in the way of our safe & uninterrupted path from one place to the next if we're honest :)

1. Tailgating. Downright stupid is all I'll say.

2. Foglights in "good" visibility (100 metres+). What's this all about? I've not had to use them once in 2 years of driving, although I now tend to flash mine briefly at offenders :)

3. Motorway "middle lane hogs" are a popular choice for a good reason I think - it effectively reduces a 3-lane carriageway to two lanes and must be responsible for a lot of the congestion we suffer. A lot of motorists seem to think that the left hand lane is only for lorries, so tend to hover in the middle at 65 even though there's nothing for miles to overtake. It's a bit of a nuisance to then have to change up two lanes and back again to get past correctly.

4. Similarly, anyone who comes straight off the slip road and cuts straight across to the right hand lane without any regard for all the traffic s/he's just cut up (usually a BMW trait this).

5. The muppet in the Volvo 440 who just parked straight down the middle of two rows of cars in the car park the other week blocking me in. Have they any idea how difficult it is to get a Rover 800 out of a gap that size? Took me 20 minutes with literally millimetres to spare.

6. People who drive on public roads without a license or insurance even though they know they're doing so completely illegally. The potential consequences don't bear thinking about and I'm sure we'd all pay a lot less for our insurance if this sort of thing wasn't going on (and it's more common than you might think).

7. Driving in London - guaranteed chaos and all the rules go completely out the window. It's not really a city built with the motor car in mind, not much fun especially if you're not used to it!

8. Anything with blacked out windows and a gigantic sub booming out R&B all the time. I can almost understand the windows... I'd want to remain anonymous if I were driving a pink old shape 3-series.

9. Why do you only ever meet a cyclist on the approach to a bend or on a narrow road where there's lots of oncoming traffic and it's impossible to pass safely?

10. Horseboxes. How come they always know where to find me?

11. People who drive through my village at about 50 (it's a 30 limit) and then almost hit my rear as I pull out to turn right (restricted visibility) - then have the cheek to flash their lights.

12. Why does everyone need to get everywhere so quickly and be in front of everyone else at any cost no matter what the risks involved in getting there?

None of us do any of the above of course, do we ;) I like topics like this, appeals to just about everyone!

Austin-Rover

10th October 2003, 06:13

My Pet-Hate must definatley be people who dont stay in their correct lanes when going round a roundabout. Especially at rush hour on a busy three-lane roundabout near where i work - everyone drifts into the middle lane totally oblivious that you are there - and then promptly clogs up the system when they realise they are now in the wrong lane for getting on the motorway.

Surely its common sense to plan what lane you need to be in *before* you get to the roundabout in the first place! Its not hard!!!

:banghead:

SimonR

10th October 2003, 08:29

As well as everything already mentioned I'd like to vote for people who don't understand roundabouts which means:

1. Cutting across both lanes when going straight on, especially if there's someone one beside them
2. NEVER indicating!
3. Pulling out in front of you when you're on the roundabout
4. Blocking the roundabout in congestion
5. Signalling left and going straight

Hmm I think that's about it.

This was particularly bad in the part of the Midlands where I went to university. The general populace NEVER signalled and ALWAYS cut across both lanes which meant that if I was in the left lane, going straight across and I drove correctly round the roundabout everyone assumed that I was going left (because they never signal) so pulled out in front of me.

I never did drive F153 into Novocastrian (underus-lymus) but it got close at times.

SimonR

10th October 2003, 08:30

Damn, Rich beat me to it! :rage:

Alan the Vanner

10th October 2003, 08:56

Wow what a response! Must be a record, surely!
Mind you it ALL sounds familiar to me.
If ever someone drives behind me with their fog lights on I just switch my rear fog light on and off and hope they get the message!
One night, a guy in a BMW did just that, except he had the fog lights on and the headlights dimmed! I flicked the rear fog light on and off and he just flashed his headlights back at me! Muppet! Mind you, all BMW drivers are a law unto themselves as far as I'm concerned!

Wonko_The_Sane

10th October 2003, 10:15

Agreed on all, especially indicators and roundabouts..drives me crazy.:banghead:

There was a lovely quote in the "Opinions" column in the Shropshire Star....I'll paste it from my LiveJournal.

"Cretinous Species of motorist is out again
The passing of our wonderful summer and the onset of shorter days means the re-emergence of - pause for fanfare - Foglight man.

This sub-species of Homo Sapiens (Latin Name Cretinus Thickasthreeshortplanksii) can be seen in the hours of darkness on any road near you.

Foglight man is usually 30 something or younger, has been known to wear a baseball cap (sometimes backwards) and, being a creature of minimal intelligence, drives his vehicle at night with dipped headlights and front foglights switched on at the same time, even when visibility is perfectly clear."

:laugh: :shoot:

Maria

10th October 2003, 11:38

Thought of another one related to motorway sliproads:

People who either speed up and barge ahead of you, or, especially when you've flashed them in, brake to a crawl, so you have to do the same to try to let them in :rage:

D87 SMW

10th October 2003, 12:19

Here's more...

Driving down the sliproad and whilst idicating to pull onto the motorway, a blonde driving a Horrid Blue Peugeot 206 behind tries to overtake and pull out before you.

Also, people who pull out in front of you and slow you down when there's nobody behind you for miles.

People who park right outside your driveway just as you are about to leave.

People who park their cars on the road even though they have a driveway.

F690OTF(RIP)

10th October 2003, 12:25

I've thought of a quite obvious motorway one which we haven't had yet; people who undertake!

On the roundabout front, something which frustrates me is the way in which the DSA are always encouraging you as a learner to employ effective all-round observation, but then insist upon you always going round a roundabout as close to the outside as possible when going straight ahead. I know this is the correct way to do it, but under certain circumstances (as has already been pointed out), this can confuse people into thinking you're going left (such as the roundabout at the top of our road, see below). I feel it is much more sensible to look all around you as you approach the roundabout, and if there aren't any cars for you to confuse (or hit), take the straightest line possible across the roundabout. The problem with this is that it relies upon your observation and indication being absolutely up to scratch, but I've never found that a problem. This doesn't necessarily just apply to roundabouts; if you're driving on empty roads and you can see for a great enough distance, it seems sensible to use all of the road available to you to minimise the necessary speed reduction and distance travelled. Obviously this isn't really a pet hate, but what is a pet hate is when people try to do this without the appropriate observation and indication, and just cause a mess.

At the roundabout at the top of our road, there weren't any lane-markings, but they put some in whilst I was learning and it made the whole roundabout more difficult to use, because you can't assume what people are doing based upon no use of indicators, so you usually judge by the line they are taking. But the lane markings encourage people to take left-turn type lines for going straight ahead, which means you either pull out in front of someone you thought was leaving the roundabout or wait for ages because you can't' be sure you're safe until there's actually nothing coming round the roundabout at all. Obviously this would all be solved if people indicated and you could rely on that fact, but I can't see that happening.

People who spend the entire red-phase of the traffic lights drifting forward, so that their back wheels are crossing the stop line by the time the lights actually change.

People who can't be bothered to use the handbrake when their car wants to roll backwards at traffic lights or a junction, and so use the clutch. Why do people have such disrespect for the mechanics of their vehicles?!

People who are driving vehicles through which you cannot see the traffic in front (not necessarily their fault, unless they've got blacked out windows), and persistently brake at the last minute coming up to the back of a queue of traffic. This forces you to brake late and hard as well, even if you've been leaving an ample gap the whole time.

People who overtake you on a one-lane motorway slip-road. Having said that, I know of at least one slip-road which looks as though it's going to be two lanes, but isn't when you get to the bottom. That caught me out, and it was one of the scariest experiences in my 3 years of driving.

In fact, I've just realised that it's exactly 3 years since I passed my test. :) Wow, in six months and fourteen days I can teach other people to drive...

Peter

Wonko_The_Sane

10th October 2003, 12:26

"People who park right outside your driveway just as you are about to leave."

Yes...:banghead: The Library bus does that..pulls in and parks, full length across the gate.

I've developed my own approach..start engine, 3 point turn to face the side of the blockage, rev engine a few times and drop it into drive...drive at bus, slide to a stop on loose gravel drive spraying it with gravel.

They soon move...:laugh:

Austin-Rover

10th October 2003, 12:26

I saw one amazing incident where a woman drove down the slip road coming onto the motorway and stopped at the end to give way to traffic! :eek:

She then proptly set off when a gap came in the speeding traffic. God know how she managed it with the other traffic driving down the slip road and having to move around her to join the motorway.

Thats definatley no.1 for me as the most stupid and dangerous thing i have ever seen!

:mad:

D87 SMW

10th October 2003, 12:39

Originally posted by RDGelder
I saw one amazing incident where a woman drove down the slip road coming onto the motorway and stopped at the end to give way to traffic! :eek:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Bet that car saw it's first 0 - 60mph test that day! :laugh:

Can't believe I've forgot this one!...

A 19 year old blonde t*rt doing 40 mph (in a 30mph zone) without being able to see squat (the sun was blinding) straight into a stationary Maestro (ahem) in a Fat b*s*a*d, sorry, Fatboy Suzuki Vitara 4x4.

Who can possibly drive along a road that curves without being able to see anything??? (i.e. a parked car!!!)

Didn't half hurt... :rage: :mad: :o

Alan the Vanner

10th October 2003, 12:42

Originally posted by RDGelder
I saw one amazing incident where a woman drove down the slip road coming onto the motorway and stopped at the end to give way to traffic! :eek:

She then proptly set off when a gap came in the speeding traffic. God know how she managed it with the other traffic driving down the slip road and having to move around her to join the motorway.

Thats definatley no.1 for me as the most stupid and dangerous thing i have ever seen!

:mad:
When I went trucking with my Dad on my school holidays, we came up behind an old woman who was REVERSING up the A34 when she missed her turn-off!:eek:

That does it! When I get Lynz back on the road I'm going to get a PA speaker fitted to the CB radio! A lot of so-called drivers are going to be asked if they got their license out of a packet of Cornflakes!:laugh:

MaestroMatt

10th October 2003, 12:57

Originally posted by F690OTF(RIP)
On the roundabout front, something which frustrates me is the way in which the DSA are always encouraging you as a learner to employ effective all-round observation, but then insist upon you always going round a roundabout as close to the outside as possible when going straight ahead. I know this is the correct way to do it, but under certain circumstances (as has already been pointed out), this can confuse people into thinking you're going left (such as the roundabout at the top of our road, see below). I feel it is much more sensible to look all around you as you approach the roundabout, and if there aren't any cars for you to confuse (or hit), take the straightest line possible across the roundabout. The problem with this is that it relies upon your observation and indication being absolutely up to scratch, but I've never found that a problem. This doesn't necessarily just apply to roundabouts; if you're driving on empty roads and you can see for a great enough distance, it seems sensible to use all of the road available to you to minimise the necessary speed reduction and distance travelled. Obviously this isn't really a pet hate, but what is a pet hate is when people try to do this without the appropriate observation and indication, and just cause a mess.

Entirely agree with this - roundabouts should be handled depending on the circumstances at the time. If there are other cars around then use the correct lane and line but if there is nobody else in sight then I think it is fine to nip straight over it as close to the middle as you like - saves time, fuel (as you don't slow down as much), and it's more fun! I think good, courteous driving is more about observation and anticipation than anything else.

Agree with most of the other pet hates as well. One of mine is slow accelerators (from traffic lights etc). I am not saying that you should rev the engine and spin the wheels but I think it is good driving to get up to road speed smoothly and swiftly and actually make some progress - NOT change up to 5th as quickly as possible to save a tiny splash of fuel! Use the full range of each gear and get moving!

John S

10th October 2003, 14:12

Originally posted by F153JUE

This was particularly bad in the part of the Midlands where I went to university. The general populace NEVER signalled and ALWAYS cut across both lanes which meant that if I was in the left lane, going straight across and I drove correctly round the roundabout everyone assumed that I was going left (because they never signal) so pulled out in front of me.

I never did drive F153 into Novocastrian (underus-lymus) but it got close at times. [/B]

I assume you mean Keele University! I currently go past there in my Maestro to piano lessons every saturday morning. I've passed by there most days of the year ('87 - '95) as I used to go to Edenhurst prep school.

John

SimonR

10th October 2003, 15:59

I assume you mean Keele University!

Yeah - I was there from 97 to 2000 (if I remember correctly) with F153 for the final 2 years. That's a coincidence - sadly our times didn't overlap as I'm sure I'd have spotted well-kept a Maestro!

Mind you, maybe you didn't have a Maesty then...?

Maria

10th October 2003, 16:25

Middle aged blonde in Fiat Tipo, apparently unable to spot stationary 6ft tall blue and purple object :rolleyes:

Thank god for towbars, eh?

tony

10th October 2003, 21:38

i have to drive a 7.5 ton waggon every now and then,when i am on the motorway the amount of people that drive 3 foot back for the rear of my truck and then i cannot see them in my mirrors,or people that miss there turn off or people that zoom down the fast lane then cut all three lanes to get off,and then i end up kissing the windsreen,happy days:eek:

D87 SMW

11th October 2003, 08:41

Think I'll miss out the part about people smashing the numberplates of an unused car to bits parking up... ;) ;) :p

:laugh:

One thing I can't let go is people opening their car doors onto your car in the carpark... :( :mad: :rage:

John S

11th October 2003, 16:43

[QUOTE]Originally posted by F153JUE
[B]Yeah - I was there from 97 to 2000 (if I remember correctly) with F153 for the final 2 years. That's a coincidence - sadly our times didn't overlap as I'm sure I'd have spotted well-kept a Maestro!

Mind you, maybe you didn't have a Maesty then...?

No, and I would have been far to young to drive any way - I was just underlining the fact that I've been going to Stoke nearly all my life! M170 (bought for me, really) is the first maestro we've ever had (strangely enough) - it had real showroom appeal, in contradiction to the negative comments I've heard about Maestro's 'image'.

Alan the Vanner

12th October 2003, 16:36

ANOTHER thing angered me this afternoon (going back to the first posting). Some berk in a green Citroen cx, xc, cxxc,- you know the one - braking to 50MPH on a main road before a speed camera! GRRR! This has got to be a major cause of accidents if nothing else! :mad:

D87 SMW

12th October 2003, 16:46

Citroén? 50 mph?:eek: ... nah! never! :rolleyes:

:laugh:

J199 HHG

13th October 2003, 09:11

I agree with all these things, except undertaking.

If you have been undertaken, you must have been in the wrong lane to have made it possible. 4 lane motorways are the worst as you get twits sitting in lane 3. I just undertake. I can't be bothered to swing across 4 lanes and back just to pass.

I have a page on my website devoted to this topic :

http://www.cowdery.demon.co.uk/ and select Driving annoyances and tips
from the navigation bar.

F690OTF(RIP)

13th October 2003, 11:06

A good set of tips, although there's nothing wrong with looking out the door when reversing if it's safe and convenient to do so. You actually start to approach tractor levels of visibility then...

I should have expanded slightly on my remark about undertaking. You're absolutely right that a lot of undertaking is, to an extent, the fault of the person being undertaken. The exception is if the person being undertaken is doing 70mph, in which case it would be illegal to overtake them, let alone undertake them. Of course, nothing is ever as simple as this. It has been suggested to me on several occasions that motorways rely on a certain proportion of people travelling at least 10mph over the speed limit.
Whilst I get extremely annoyed at so many people showing no regard for the law when I make such a conscious effort to keep it, I try to avoid sitting in an outside lane doing 70 on the basis that no-one should be trying to overtake me so I'm therefore not in anyone's way, tempting as it is. After all, it's not my responsibility to make everyone else obey the law; THAT'S WHAT I PAY THE POLICE TO DO!! All this rubbish about speed cameras being to encourage people to drive safely, not to catch them speeding is farcical; if you're breaking the law then you're in the wrong, that's all there is to it. It's perfectly reasonable for the police to use automated means to attempt to enforce such widely broken laws because if they used manpower to do it they wouldn't have any policemen left for anything else.

OK, controversial rant over. Have a nice day :)

Peter

P.S. (I'm not saying I agree with the law, I'm just saying that mine or anyone else's agreement or otherwise doesn't alter the law.)

Alan the Vanner

13th October 2003, 16:17

Ah yes, motorways that have lanes blocked off for roadworks or whatever, and the inevitable bunch of morons who leave it to the last minute to get into the open lane(s). Oooooohhhh! :mad:

tony

13th October 2003, 21:58

dont even get me started on people who put fog lights on when it is raining,then leave the on for two weeks after :banghead: :rage:

Alan the Vanner

14th October 2003, 09:20

Originally posted by tony
dont even get me started on people who put fog lights on when it is raining,then leave the on for two weeks after :banghead: :rage:
Yeah, I remember driving someone to the airport early one morning. It was very foggy, and there was one of those electronic signboards saying: Fog. Please use lights.
Why can't they have one for when it's raining: Rain, do not use fog lights!?

D87 SMW

14th October 2003, 14:35

Originally posted by Alan the Vanner
Yeah, I remember driving someone to the airport early one morning. It was very foggy, and there was one of those electronic signboards saying: Fog. Please use lights.
Why can't they have one for when it's raining: Rain, do not use fog lights!?

Saw a fairly new Renault Megané Scenic this morning with fog lights on. Used them so much, one's already burned out...... :rolleyes:

Quality

14th October 2003, 15:50

1. People who think that 60 is a target on a tight twisty single carrageway A road in the wet.
2. Full beam headlights in dusk/rain/motorways and dual carrageways which are lit.
3. The people who blast out of slip roads where the slip roads divide into fast lane and slow lane. The always sit in the blind spot until about 20 yards from the end of the slip road when they floor it and almost bent my panels.
4. Lorry drivers/Truck Drivers who wait until they scrape my bumper until they overtake on a clear motorway when I'm doing 60/70.
5. The rover 414/6 driver who was irate when I went straight at a roundabout when I wan't indicating, instead of turning right.
6. Dopey idiots who block roundabour exits when there exit is blocked when the rest of the roundabout is clear.
7. People who park in the middle of a 2 car space making it a 1 car space, espically in the new boxes which have just come into our road.
8. Box junctions :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
9. People who don't signal when they finish overtaking on a motorway.
10. People who edge out on roundabouts meaning I have to take up two lanes to get past the nose of there car
11. The above is even worse on straight A roads.

Alan the Vanner

17th October 2003, 19:12

Does anyone here use single lane back roads in villages? I have to when I'm on my parcel deliveries, and I hate the ignorant t:censored: who don't move over. I remember once passing this woman in a Mazda or something like that, I was making every effort to make room with my Toyota Liteace, (good thing it has plenty of ground clearance - I wouldn't have made it with my Maestro) and she just drove straight by without even looking at me! SNAAARRRLLL!!!:mad:

Landcrab1800

22nd October 2003, 13:08

Hi,
Got to say that I agree with the lot of you but what about the 4*4 driver.
Had one come down a slip road and try to force his way on to the motorway. Probably thought that his size would intimidate me. WRONG. I had nowhere to go as I was being overtaken by a stream of cars. At the last moment he looked to see if there was anything coming and yes there was me. Should have seen his face when he saw he was picking a fight with a lorry (Horsebox actually). Never knew 4*4's had such good brakes.

And if I start on HGV's I'll never get off, ignorant so and so's.

Gordon
:rage:

Alan the Vanner

22nd October 2003, 19:40

Originally posted by Landcrab1800

And if I start on HGV's I'll never get off, ignorant so and so's.

Er, what's the matter with truckers then?

E_T_V

22nd October 2003, 21:20

On my motorbike I have to say that by far the most courteous and observant drivers on the road are truckers and buses.

In a car the courtesy isn't the same though.

D87 SMW

23rd October 2003, 09:12

There was an ambulance behind us the other week, so dad pulled in to let it pass, and as it reached a bus stop, a bus pulled out on another bus, and they were bother there ar*ing about for about 5 minutes clogging the road!

There were a few choice words after that I can tell you....

Quality

23rd October 2003, 09:18

Originally posted by F170 GGT
There was an ambulance behind us the other week, so dad pulled in to let it pass, and as it reached a bus stop, a bus pulled out on another bus, and they were bother there ar*ing about for about 5 minutes clogging the road!

There were a few choice words after that I can tell you....

Thats another one of mine, ******s who overtake me as the ambulance has just passed, so i get stuck behind a big long line of traffic until there is a gap.

And stupid bus lane only things where the buses sit to turn right and reduce a dual carrageway to one, and then one stops at the stop on the left then blocks the whole bloody road:rage: :rage: :banghead: :banghead:

Landcrab1800

23rd October 2003, 12:32

Whats wrong with lorries????

1) Pulling out and running into my back door and writing the car off. It was rainy, busy and I had no where to go on the M6. He was a left hooker from Irland. I had to chase him and force him to stop. He thought he had hit a pot hole. Nearly had the same thing happen on the M! a few months later. Othewr half driving but managed to atract the drivers attn. with the horn.

2) They try to park in your boot if they think you are too slow, even if you have to stop

3) Tend not to be curtious to other road users

4) Tailgate each other, pullout, indictate and force you to brake. THEN they take 4 miles to pass the other lorry, thats if it does get passed because the other lorries now racing it.

5)Horrible when an artic overtakes you on the motorway, especially as I was doing 70-75 mph (Irish again & M6)

6 Weaving between lanes because they are on the mobile, I know that other road users do it BUT 45 tons of angle iron can do alot more damage.

By the way, I average about 400 miles aweek just on the M ways( mainly M5 below Bristol):rage: :rage: :censored:

Alan the Vanner

23rd October 2003, 19:24

If you've got it, a truck brought it:

D87 SMW

23rd October 2003, 19:26

Originally posted by Alan the Vanner
If you've got it, a truck brought it:

Good point. :thumbup:

Quality

23rd October 2003, 19:41

Originally posted by F170 GGT
Good point. :thumbup:
\
Unless it came on a train, or was home grown/made

Alan the Vanner

23rd October 2003, 19:44

Oh why doesn't this picture posting work for me?!:banghead:

D87 SMW

23rd October 2003, 19:48

Originally posted by Quality
\
Unless it came on a train, or was home grown/made

Or it was driven home for you... :) :D :laugh: :cool: ;)

E_T_V

23rd October 2003, 22:09

A bit like one of our company adverts

Nothing is manufactured or produced without it (Steel)

Alan the Vanner

24th October 2003, 09:05

(I'll get the hang of this thing yet!)

Alan the Vanner

24th October 2003, 09:06

As I said, if you've got it, a truck brought it!;)

D87 SMW

24th October 2003, 09:08

Originally posted by Alan the Vanner
As I said, if you've got it, a truck brought it!;)

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Hey, I saw a Maestro the same colour and model the other day up here. Looked in fairly good condition too! GGT, look out! :eek:

Alan the Vanner

24th October 2003, 09:16

I just thought, The Leyland Roadrunner in that pic has Maestro headlamps!

D87 SMW

24th October 2003, 09:22

Originally posted by Alan the Vanner
I just thought, The Leyland Roadrunner in that pic has Maestro headlamps!

What, one of these? :eek: ;) :D :cool:

Alan the Vanner

24th October 2003, 09:31

Er yeah, except they're 24 volts.
That reminds me of something else that annoys me, someone coming the otherway at night forgetting to dip their lights.:mad: When Lynz is back on the road, I think I shall fit some rally type driving lamps. That'll learn 'em!:laugh:

Landcrab1800

24th October 2003, 13:10

I fitted some 100 watt lights to my bike and they were angled to dazzle, this was while i was in germany. Got caughtout one night when I gave a german a quick flash. It was his light adjustment that was out because he retaliated with 4 rallye spots.

I have noticed that on modern cars the light pattern makes it appear that people are on full when they overtake you.:cool:

E_T_V

24th October 2003, 13:35

What you want is one of them movable outside spot lamps like the police and forestry comission have.. Then you can directly dazze pillocks that don't dip their lights.

Wonder where I can get one for my van?....

Alan the Vanner

25th October 2003, 19:17

Rear mounted spots? Yep, I'm going to do that. As long as there's an illuminated switch for them there shouldn't be any trouble from the local constabulary.

Simon

25th October 2003, 23:26

I've been watching this thread evolve for some time now. I'm a tolerant, courteous driver and accept most situations on the road as part of modern day life. However, there are two major irritants for me at the moment.

1) It has already been mentioned, the post- ambulance/police/fire/emergency pull-in overtaker, ie the car behind you that overtakes you as you are pulling back out after letting the nee-naws through. Arrrrggghhh!

2) People in front whose windscreen washers are set a bit too high and give your car's windscreen a squirt as well as theirs, resulting in you having to use wipers. Then they do it again. And again.

Years ago, when I used to have a B reg Maestro, most of the motoring irritants centred around MKII (81-88) Cavalier drivers...

D87 SMW

2nd November 2003, 10:32

Ford owners.

...with only one exception... ;) ;) :D :cool:

tony

2nd November 2003, 15:28

in my youff i use to reset the washers to the side of the road,so when i was driving down the road all the pedestrians would get wet :laugh: :laugh:

G51 NAV

8th November 2003, 15:51

From Mrs G51:

"People who double-park outside schools at 'coming out time' and think that it doesn't matter for the five or ten minutes that they're there. The rest of us, who are using the road as a 'road' and not a 'car park', have to try to squeeze through the resulting narrow gaps, and if we loose a wing-mirror or knock off one of theirs, they never seem to think it's THEIR fault!"

Austin-Rover

8th November 2003, 22:51

Okay - a new one that has only just annoyed me tonight on the way home from work.

People who drop flaming cigarette butts from their window. The effect it created as it hits the road and sends glowing embers everywhere just as you drive over it is quite worrying indeed. Needless to say the Cigarette came from a BMW.....

:(

H48HPE

8th November 2003, 23:38

im getting serious road rage recently, everything is anoying me and i seriously need to calm down. im trying my best to let idiots on the road just pass by without me going mad and losing my temper. its really difficult and ive got to calm down

andy

Wonko_The_Sane

10th November 2003, 10:15

Agreed on the school run, and the cigarette butts. A major annoyance of late is lorries. More specifically, damnfool lorry drivers that don't know what that thing called a "steering wheel" actually does. It enables you to take corners..without taking the entire road.

I was heading into an "S" bend 3 days ago, and came face to face with a rig/trailer that decided bends were too hard, and it'd be easier to just straightline it.:horror:

tony

10th November 2003, 15:28

now its getting dark i have a new one ,people that dont dip there lights, or have badly ajusted ones:(

Alan the Vanner

10th November 2003, 18:47

Originally posted by tony
no its getting dark i have a new one ,people that dont dip there lights, or have badly ajusted ones:(
Yeah. Can I mention fog lights again? This time though when it's been raining! It's got to be the worst thing you could possibly do when driving! (Apart from running someone over, perhaps - depends if they asked for it) It's just bad etiq, eqite, etik, manners!:rage:

D87 SMW

10th November 2003, 18:50

Originally posted by Alan the Vanner
Yeah. Can I mention fog lights again? This time though when it's been raining! It's got to be the worst thing you could possibly do when driving! (Apart from running someone over, perhaps - depends if they asked for it) It's just bad etiq, eqite, etik, manners!:rage:

Something I have noticed about people who drive with fog lights on...

9/10 Renault Scenic drivers fall into this pit, erm, sorry, category.

:mad: :eek: :rolleyes:

Simon

11th November 2003, 00:33

3 more annoyances for me. I know it's meant to be live and let live but...

Cyclists that ride two abreast.

Horse riders that ride the damn thing on the road when there's lots of fields nearby (don't get me wrong I always slow right down for horses because it is the responsible thing to do, in fact once I actually stopped dead for one...when it wrote off my beloved Maestro HL, B962JNN).

Just as annoying as tailgating are people that leave a massive unnecessary gap between them and the car in front in a traffic queue or jam, and those that respond far too slowly when the cars start to crawl forward. Aaarrrggghhh c'mon we're all gonna be late for work now dammit...

Landcrab1800

11th November 2003, 06:55

Hi,
the best yet I think (ok I dont think it hurts).

In the massive M5 jam by Jnt 23 on friday approaching the road works.
The wind was gently carressing the rain as it dropped(sorry got carried away).
about 400 yrds from the start where the inside lane was closed, I was in the middle lane. I had just gone under the jnt flyover and was about 50 yds from the end of the slip road. A car was beside me in the inner lane waiting to pull in behind. Then it happened, I could not believe it (the suspense) An artic undertook on the hard shoulder, gave a motorist joining the mway a shock then forced itself into the trafficjust before the 2 lanes started.

The reason I hate lorry drivers is the way they use there size to imtimidate others with their bad driving.
:rolleyes: