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Mark1600VP
9th September 2004, 15:53
Has anyone had experience of a similar problem to mine with the top Engine Mount on their Maestro? Mine's a 1988 Petrol 1600VP (82k Miles) new S series engine I think.

The problem is the engine bracket on the offside top mounting is sliding back and forth under acceleration / braking on the mounting itself (makes a graunching nosie as it does so). It looks as thought the Bush on the engine bracket is sliding back and forth on the outer metal sleeve of the mounting rubber (can move it by hand with a strong push). The mounting is securely fixed to the inner bracket which fits to the body.

I have not yet dismantled this so don't know exactly what is wrong and the Heynes manual doesn't really cover this or show a good enough picture of the mounting rubbers themeselves for me to work out how they fit together.

Does a new mounting rubber come with an outer metal sleeve that fits inside the bush on the engine bracket - if so is this an "interference fit"? Is it easy to replace or is it likely the Bush on the bracket itself is worn oversize?

Any ideas welcome so I know what to expect when I take it out. Also is this part easy to buy?

Many thanks.

Mark1600VP

Simon
9th September 2004, 16:21
The alloy arm comes complete with the rubber bush already fitted, ready to bolt into position in the metal bracket. New ones are quite expensive, I needed a new top mounting when converting my 1.6 to PAS and the arm was £75+VAT!

G Force
9th September 2004, 21:17
Hi There. I dont often offer an alternative engineering solution, (better known as a bodge) but at the expence of say £75 or countless weekends grovelling round the scrappies. You could centrallise the bush in the mount, drill two suitable holes in the two then screw in two large short self tappers and see how it goes. :)

E_T_V
9th September 2004, 22:16
I've seen that done before on 2 litre engines and T series ones to good effect

Mark1600VP
11th September 2004, 03:31
Thanks to all for the replies, it all becomes clearer now. I was thinking that the rubber mounting was a separate, replaceable unit, had no idea it was a dealer only integrated assembly part with arm (this I have now had confirmed by my local Motor Factors - no pattern or exchange parts available).

I have now had two prices quoted by Rover dealers. The first £68+VAT but they could not say for sure if it was the right part so could I go in and visually check their Micro-Fiche records and confirm. The second quoted £78+VAT and confirmed it was part number "ADL 3038" but could not confirm if it was still available from Rover until next week. So Simon's figure is still about right.

I will dismantle on Sunday (if I can get the car in the garage which is full of the usual paraphanalia of carboard boxes, mowers etc. + my Motorbike) and see just how loose the bush really is. May well try the Bodge that G Force suggested (thanks G Force) - nothing to loose. Will report back once I have solved the problem.

Thanks again.

Mark1600VP

e692wtt
11th September 2004, 13:04
I've found contact adhesive useful in situations where I've needed to attach rubber to metal, with some success (but not in this particular application).

You could possibly try this as well as G Force's suggestion of using some self-tappers, as a 'belt and braces' approach?

But do it in a well ventilated space, or you will feel very strange from the adhesive fumes very quickly :laugh: .

Simon
11th September 2004, 19:54
CRC 6309 is arm and bush without PAS. That'll be the £68 option. ADL3037 is the one with the quadrant for PAS, which is more expensive. The rear and gearbox mounting can be obtained from Ledbury, well worth doing too.