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[Rich]

I just thought I would share this with you all, I belive its indiectly relates to maestro/montegos with regards to parts and scrapyards.

I run a Hoover Logic 1200 washing machine, my parents a Hoover Electron washing machine. There machine was purchased just after I was born, and has provided over 20 years relativly trouble free service, with occasinal repairs from me and my dad over the years (mainly motor brushes) it goes on and on.

Obviously when I moved out, I needed such a machine, and puposly bought a reconditioned Logic model. Essentially the same thing, slightly different design which is also approaching 20 years old. This has worked faultlessly for the last 2 years, until, the drum bearing went, with a hell of a noise. The bearing kit cost about £20 and it made me sware doing the job, but got them replaced after most of the machine down. It was fine for a few months, but last week, it started leakeing water from the back of the shaft where it enters the backplate on the drum.

After taking it to bits, scratching my head and then taking the inner drum to a bloke who reconditioned Hoover machines, he pronounced it dead. A bit of the drum, that is supposed to make the seal against the rubber seal had broken up and vanished. Either a new inner drum (£100 ish) or a new machine. I told him I would chew it over.

Being me, I didnt want either option, so I decided to pop in at the local tip on the way home. Low and behold in the pile was a Hoover Logic 1300, slightly higher model than mine, but the bits I wanted would be identical. It cost me £10 and the bloke at the tip even helped me in the back of the car with it!

After getting it home, it essentially worked fine, washing old curtains in the garden, it was just very tatty. So I just swopped over the inner drum and backplate into my machine, and it works fine again!

Also into the bargain, I have a new motor which looks like it was reconditioned recently, and a whole host of other parts! I could even do an upgrade to 1300 spin speed with the circuit board out of it, the motors and connections are identical!

Not bad for £10

Just goes to show, its not only an old car I run and keep going with parts people chuck away!

Finally, I cannot praise (older) Hoover machines enough, there are built to last, and when looked after can provide years of reliable service, and are not hard to work on at all. I have never called a service engineer out, and I dont think my dad would be able to tell you the last time one visited him. At least thats my experience and view on them. Also they are British and not some Italian effort.

Rich (cheapskate!)

[D87 SMW]

I suppose it's all very Lodge-ical!... :laugh::laugh::laugh: :rolleyes:

[SimonR]

Rich,

You have given me hope - someone else who is mean enough not to buy a new washing machine but spend several evenings attempting to repair the old one instead!

About 2 months ago I noticed that our machine was making the LOUDEST clanking and banging sounds when spinning and found that the drum bearings were knacked.

I bought a new bearing kit for £15 from http://www.ezee-fix.co.uk/ and with the use of bearing pullers and some very bad language put it all back together.

Gave me a true sense of satisfaction, that is, until I found that you got a whole machine for two thirds of what I paid for bearings :eek:

I hope you managed to scrape all the cack out of the drum at the same time! - our pump was also choked up with lime scale, so badly, that when I ran the machine for the first time all the remaining bits, on exiting the machine, made exactly the same sound as you'd expect if someone threw a bucket full of water onto the floor. My flatmates and I have never moved so fast I can tell you! :laugh:

[Wonko_The_Sane]

Rich-Hotpoint get my vote..I had until a month back, in the back of my garage, one 30+ years old Hotpoint single tub.

I'm talking serious age here...removeable porcelain blue top, yellow body, HUGE lid on the drum, great big central agitator, industrial size heater element bolted into the bottom, a powered wringer that weighs about the same as 2 spare tyres..big chrome levers and bakelite buttons etc.

Amazingly the only thing that failed on it in 30 years of use by my nan was the drain pump-a bakelite "car water pump" style affair that ran by means of a rubber "wheel" that you pushed into contact with the spinning motor..:laugh:

However...when I called Hotpoint, or looked anywhere for the parts to recondition it..I got laughed at..:laugh: "Yes mate...30 years(ish) old. Model? Nope, it hasn't got one. Yes, I said MANUAL operated..yes, NO electronics.."..sigh..

Those things were built to last...the motor drove all gears and linkages through a fillable gearcase that wouldn't have looked out of place on H870!:eek:

It's been given to a historical machinery place now..but after 30+ years, it was still almost silent running..bloody lethal though..I got my hand trapped in the wringer, and it tore my skin without an effort..:censored:

[Rich]

ezee-fix are great, thats where I got my bearings from, and the seal that goes between the outer drum and the backplate. Reliable, prompt and helpful! I didnt think refuse sites were allowed to sell thrown away electrical items, I know our tip has a section of "rubbish for sale" but its usually furniture. Still cant believe that I paid a tenner for that other machine! I consider I have helped the environment too, I could have scrapped the my one and bought a new one, instead taking serviceable parts from one kept mine going, now i only scrap the shell of a machine! Tax reduction???? I should be so lucky!

Funny you should mention cack in the drum. I expected my machine to be caked in it, but the only signs of it were on the backplate and heater element. Apart from that, it was like new. The machine I robed the bits from, was terrible I spent half an hour scraping with a screwdriver and wire brush to get rid of as much of it as I could.

The satisfcation is indescribable, especially when you seem to beat all the odds. Its the sorta, I WILL fix this type thing!!!

Wonko, have a look on ebay, theres a machine simmiler to what you describe. Hotpoint is a bit of a grey area for me, my FREE hotpoint fridge is working like a good-un, despite the fact the compressor rattles and the door is losing paint!!

The Hotpoint dishwasher is a running wreck, it has an earth fault somewhere on it, can I find it, i treied looking for it for hours with a Megger but it insisted on tripping out the electric, so (and this is not recomended at all) I took the earth of it! Theres about 20v on the case, but I put in a switch to isolate it before you turn it on,still havent had a shock of it! The pump jams up every so often, there seems nothing wrong with it, so to get it to work, you kick it hard. Thus, it has loads of dents in it. However, the replacement is nigh in the form of my parents old one when they move!

[tony]

now wheres that starting handle:laugh:

[e692wtt]

A collection of cars got stolen once, but funnily enough all the cars had defective starter motors yet they were all started up and driven away.

Police think it was the work of a crank...

The other other Rich.:censored:

[Austin-Rover]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[D87 SMW]

:laugh: :rolleyes:

[Simon]

2 years ago MY Hoover Logic 1200 died (is yours the one with the "electronic" programmer with the horizontal thumbwheel and the light grey facia?)Most useless feature...the creaseguard button! Mine was bought new in 1990 making it an H reg! It stopped rinsing properly, I'd say it was the programmer that was knackered and it'd stop before the rinse cycle. At the time I had a look but gave up and bought a new Hoover Six express 1200. This is not as good as the model it replaced and, unfortunately can sometimes leave traces of powder on dark fabrics in the form of, ermmm, white stains....At college we used to have Hoover twin-tubs. They were hilarious, it really did bring fun back to wash day. If you've never used a twin tub then you've really missed out, hooking the hose over the sink, playing frisbee with the grey rubber thingy that keeps the clothes in the spinner and chasing the whole machine as it vibrates across the floor.

I can verify that Hoover Vortex vacuum cleaners are useless, I want my old Vax back but 'er indoors prefers an upright one.

Virtually everything else electrical in my house is Philips, as it happens. As is my car audio in my Maestro.

[Rich]

Ahh a fellow Logicer!

Yep it has the thumbwheel, and the "electronic" programmer, that clicks and whirrs when you select the program you want!

Hate to say it but there are a few hidiously simple things which will cause the symptoms you describe......never mind!!

So far as Hoovers, sorry, Vacuum Cleaners go, I would reccomend Numatic. They make the Henry smiley faced range, and are industrial machines. Far better than a Dyson, my parents bought a Dyson some years ago now, ignoring advice from me, no more than a year later, they bought a Henry to replace the heavy, noisy, filter eating pile of :censored: !! They were easilly taken in by the 100% suction garbage and spent £250 on this wonder machine, Henry cost about £95 and had all the allergy filters that the Dyson did, just didn't cost a stupid amount of money on filters every year. Unfortunatly I enherited said machine when I moved out, which I managed to flog to some unwitting couple via ebay. I really did feel sorry for them, but got good feedback:D

Rich