Panel offer

[Maria]

I've just spoken to someone on the phone who has a contact in a Rover dealership. He's hoping, between us and the MGM group, to have enough interest to get panel sets (doors, bonnet, tailgate) at significantly discounted prices from Rover.

This is a fantastic opportunity, and one which I don't think we can afford to pass up if we want our cars to stay on the road for many more years to come.

Would anyone, tentatively, be interested in buying a set? I don't have exact prices, because obviously this depends on the number of people taking up the offer, but it could be as much as a 50% discount.

[TurboMG]

Count me in.

[Jonathan]

Yes me too. I think that this could be very popular, after all there's always a demand for Maestro and Montego panels given the rate they can disintegrate and the amount of trouble it can be to find good replacements at the dump. I'm after a tailgate and a couple of doors quite urgently, they really let the car down.

[e692wtt]

I'd have a set of Montego panels - I need the 2 o/s doors asap, and a full set AS WELL as the two doors would be useful. Is this possible?

It's good to see the Club being taken seriously and being offered body panels and also the metric tyres.

The other other Rich.
:)

[matthewsemple]

What sort of prices are we talking of?

If I remember rightly a tailgate costs about £400+VAT so a full set of panels even at half price is going to run to a tidy sum of over £1000.

Nevertheless, I would be interested in a set at the right price and especially if I could get some front wings without the indicator holes for my 1984 car and the quarter panels around the rear lamps for my Turbo.

Cheers, Matthew

[tony]

me 2 ,4 doors would be nice

[Maria]

Basically, the more people say yes, the cheaper it gets!

[Simon]

Yes please, the rust on my car is of the "bolt on" kind so is easily cured by swapping doors/tailgate/front wings.

[John S]

Wouldn't mind an MG Tailgate and front drivers door - they both have miniscule but worrying corrosion nevertheless.

[K260EWF]

yep and me i need a new front drivers door to replace the one with a big hole almost hand sized, don't really want to weld a plate on when a new door would be far better.:)

[Rich]

Me to please, at the right price, may be needing the panel which is under the back of the tailgate where the striker pin is, every time i hoover the boot, i suck up bits of this panel!:banghead:

[H48HPE]

if they really are up to 50% discount, i could do with the following:

to start with:

o/s rear wing & wheel arch
o/s sill
drivers door skin or complete door
o/s rear door skin or complete door

then if there's any money left:

n/s rear wing & wheel arch
n/s sill

[Mat_C]

Are the door panels a repair outer skin etc or complete? I could do with o/s front and rear doors.

[Maria]

They'd be complete

[TurboMG]

Just for reference.

BEP 755 Bonnet 125 retail
BDA 31002 Fnt door 195 retail
BFA 31002 rear door 195 retail
BEP 2349 hatch 200 retail

[matthewsemple]

Originally posted by TurboMG
Just for reference.

BEP 755 Bonnet 125 retail
BDA 31002 Fnt door 195 retail
BFA 31002 rear door 195 retail
BEP 2349 hatch 200 retail

Is that from a Rover dealer or motor factors? Are they genuine parts as I am sure the hatch costs more than taht. How much do front wings cost?

[TurboMG]

They are genuine rover parts.

Front wing for plastic bumper cars is
BEP 2390 84 retail
outer sill BEP 2142 32.40 retail
inner rear wheel arch the bit that always parts company from the outer BEP 793 19.20 RETAIL

[matthewsemple]

Originally posted by TurboMG
They are genuine rover parts.

Front wing for plastic bumper cars is BEP 2390 84 retail
outer sill BEP 2142 32.40 retail
inner rear wheel arch the bit that always parts company from the outer BEP 793 19.20 RETAIL

That's good - so if we can get them for half price I could get two wings for £84. Now this is a long shot, but do you know the partno for wings without repeater holes from early Maestros? And are they still available?

[TurboMG]

BEP 2248 but there NLA I'm afraid.

[matthewsemple]

Originally posted by TurboMG
BEP 2248 but they're NLA I'm afraid. So the choice is to weld up the holes or fit repeaters.

[MGTurbo]

So the choice is to weld up the holes or fit repeaters.

No, you can't do that. The earlier wing differed in construction, two wing bolts are accessed from inside the wheelarch panel and have an extra stiffener where these bolts go through, the later wings had these two bolts deleted and had a single bracket at the top corner where it bolts onto the A post.

Gareth

[matthewsemple]

There must we a way around this. Most of the bolts are the same so it won't fall off the car.

[MGTurbo]

The wing would be insecure at the rear. It would not be a good idea to fit a late wing to an early car, as this could affect the structual ridgidity of the car and fail an MOT. An early wing could be repaired using a later wing as a template.

Gareth

[matthewsemple]

Originally posted by MGTurbo
The wing would be insecure at the rear. It would not be a good idea to fit a late wing to an early car, as this could affect the structual ridgidity of the car and fail an MOT. An early wing could be repaired using a later wing as a template.

Gareth
I'm sure there is way of fabricating some brackets so a later wing could be secured onto the car. Repairing an earlier would involve using a rotten part which I am keen to avoid.

My wings are still pretty good for a 19 year old Maestro so I may cut out the rust and fill them which will make them last a few more years.

Getting hold of rust-free early wings is hard these days. I think they stopped fitting them in 1985.

[MGTurbo]

Repairing an earlier would involve using a rotten part which I am keen to avoid

But if your cutting out the rust and welding in new why would the repaired still be rotten?

Gareth

[matthewsemple]

True - but I'd still rather have a new wing and adapt the bracket to fit. When I have taken wings off Maestros in the past they can look quite good but they are often covered in surface rust on the back and the metal is extremely thin where it about to perforate. I had a bit of discoloration on my Turbo's front wheelarch once and I pressed my thumb on it and it went right through making a great big hole!

If I fit new wings I would coat the back of them in zinc-based primer paint and sealant with waxoyl.

By the way Gareth - I have nicked a picture of you car off one these threads. Do you mind if I post it up in my Turbo gallery?

[BIGLAD]

Hi,
Are there any rear Van doors available? Does anyone know the part number and price of the Genuine ones?

[BIGLAD]

Originally posted by MGTurbo
The wing would be insecure at the rear. It would not be a good idea to fit a late wing to an early car, as this could affect the structual ridgidity of the car and fail an MOT. An early wing could be repaired using a later wing as a template.

Gareth

The wing on a Maestro does not offer a geat deal of structual rigity as they are not welded to the inner wing /flitch panel.
If you look at a Mk. 3 Fiesta this has very liitle inner wing,
(mostly plastic wheel arch liner/splash guard)- the outer wing on these vehicles does help increase the front end strength.But they are welded on.
A corroded Maestro/montego wing is not classed as structual and therefore cannot be failed on the MOT. It may fail if corroded/rusty externaly and "sharp edges are likely to cause harm to passing pedestrians"

[CyrixDes]

I may be interested in a wide range of panels. Nothing particularly wrong with my current ones but if the price was right i'd think about buying to store for future use.

[e692wtt]

My late, unlamented but still-on-the-drive-being-stripped-and-due-to-be-reduced-to-small-pieces-this-weekend VDP Monty failed its MoT rather spectacularly, when I put it through the MoT with a view to pumping money into it rather than my Monty... It is holier-than-the-pope and more-rotten-than-a-pear, as well as needing a new PAS Rack.

It also failed on 'vehicle condition', ie the lower rear corner of the n/s/f wing had rotted so that it could not be secured at this 'corner' - the 'tab' through which the lower rear mounting bolt passes (into the sill) had rotted/snapped and so the lower rear quarter of the n/s/f wing was, literally, flapping in the wind.

Just thought I'd muddy the waters - why fail on 'dangerous parts' when one can fail, with pride/embarrassment, on 'vehicle condition'? In for a penny, in for a pound and all that...

Monty's doing fine having gone straight through his last MoT, by the way... still with a noisy driveshaft...

The other other Rich.:laugh:

[MGTurbo]

Matt, go ahead on the picture, and also add my website to the links if you want. http://members.lycos.co.uk/mgmaestro

I have a brand new early front wing in my shed, driver's side i think, we might be able to do a deal.


The wing on a Maestro does not offer a geat deal of structual rigity as they are not welded to the inner wing /flitch panel.

Yes, quite true, but for the reasons already outlined above, an insecure panel would still fail an MOT which was my point.

Gareth

[matthewsemple]

Originally posted by MGTurbo
Matt, go ahead on the picture, and also add my website to the links if you want. http://members.lycos.co.uk/mgmaestro

I have a brand new early front wing in my shed, driver's side i think, we might be able to do a deal.

Gareth

Yes I would be interested in that. E-mail me with your price and we'll sort something out at MG Saloon Day.

That radio you sold me at MGM 2001 is still providing good service in my Turbo.

I'll probably be going to MGM 2003 in my MG Maestro 1600 - so I'll see you there!

[matthewsemple]

Gareth - I have updated my site. there are now a couple of pictures of your car on the Turbo Gallery page - and your site is listed in the links page!

[Roachie]

Yo, I also need body panels. :(

I urgently require a near side front wing, bumper and bonnet for a 1988 MG Montego 2.0 EFI. Also a n/s headlight mounting bracket.

Can anyone help? Metallic dark grey preferred tho not essential.

Si.

[Simon]

Van doors as follows

Shell assy door RH BEP 1398
Shell assy door LH BEP 1399
Skin RH BEP 1320
Skin LH BEP 1321

[BIGLAD]

Originally posted by MGTurbo
The wing would be insecure at the rear. It would not be a good idea to fit a late wing to an early car, as this could affect the structual ridgidity of the car and fail an MOT. An early wing could be repaired using a later wing as a template.

Gareth
A Maestro/Montego would not fail an MOT if the most rear securing bolt (the one on the "a pillar"/ behind the door opening)was missing or corroded through. It must be an immediate danger to other road users and/or pedestrians, Which this is not. Unless it is "flapping" at 90 degrees from the flitch/inner wing.

[e692wtt]

I'd go along with that - the wing may be 'slightly moveable' by a couple of millimetres tops with the rear top bolt missing, but it wouldn't be 'flapping in the wind'. My VDP's wing WAS flapping in the wind at the lower rear corner and was a most-deserved fail (I say that with pride!), but 2 minutes with a gas welder and some steel plate pre-drilled would have sorted it. The damn wing stayed put and wouldn't move unless the front passenger door was opened, when it was 'jemmied' loose and needed a good, hard kick to 'relocate' it. Happy days...

The other other Rich.:eek:

[TurboMG]

Tha maestro van doors are still avalible and are priced thus:-

BEP 1398 91.54 RETAIL
BEP 1399 99.02 RETAIL

BEP 1320/21 door skin 41.98

[matthewsemple]

Originally posted by e692wtt
I'd go along with that - the wing may be 'slightly moveable' by a couple of millimetres tops with the rear top bolt missing, but it wouldn't be 'flapping in the wind'.
The other other Rich.:eek:

The bolts on the top of the wing that you can see when you open the bonnet plus the one behind the bumper and the one in the sill were enough to make the wing 100% fixed when I fitted a wing to my Turbo once.

[matthewsemple]

Originally posted by TurboMG
Tha maestro van doors are still avalible and are priced thus:-

BEP 1398 91.54 RETAIL
BEP 1399 99.02 RETAIL

BEP 1320/21 door skin 41.98

Are the doors you refer to the rear ones? If not then the front doors are the same as on the hatchback, aren't they?

[TurboMG]

Yes these are the rear doors.

[matthewsemple]

Originally posted by TurboMG
Yes these are the rear doors.

So they won't fit my Maestro Turbo, then!:laugh:

[tony]

try modifing them:laugh:

[matthewsemple]

:eek: Always tried to keep my Turbo pretty standard!
http://www.angelfire.com/home/mat99v/500frontleft.jpg :laugh:

[SimonR]

Maria,

Is there any news on this - I've just realised that I could buy the replacement panels for F153.

I'd need (both sides)

Sill
Rear outer arches
Rear Inner arches

Thanks

Simon R.

[Maria]

There will be an article in Monstro about it. I'm asking for people's names and contact details if they're seriously interested. As soon as I get a firm number from the whole membership, I can pass that on to the person who's brokering the deal and see what we can get out of Rover.

[hornmeister2000]

I'm after a rear wheel arch, although the whole panel would be better if it's available for a 1990 MG Maestro...

[Alan the Vanner]

I've just fitted two of those to my van, albeit much trimmed as they don't seem to do ones specifically for vans. I've noticed that one side has put a slight ripple in at sill level in the back panel.:( Oh well, I was going to get some MG wheelarch trims for the back arch so they might hide it a bit.:) Off to the salvage yards again.....Unless anyone here has any spare, hmm?