going to 4 pot

[countrydude]

I got a pair of the mgtf calipers, as my car is an austin model I have decided to go de badged and although a minor detail I decided to go the same way with these as they had the MG logo that would have been visable through the wheels.

Before, a bit tatty and red:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd301/philstan/IMG-20110407-00040.jpg

Nearly finished, the release film is still on and I will lacquer over to hold them in place but you get the idea:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd301/philstan/IMG-20110412-00042.jpg

quick shot of the wheels after a respray, using graphite grey:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd301/philstan/IMG-20110412-00043.jpg
Poor quality pic but I only have my phone camera atm.

[G51 NAV]

Excellent I reckon they'll look good. Should stop the car well too.

[countrydude]

Yeah, ever since day one the engine has been much better than the brakes so I have been itching to get these. I'll post up some pics when they are on.

[Jumturbo]

Excellent stuff!;) Do the 4 pots fit straight onto the monty hubs or do you need to mod anything? Also what discs are you using, normal F/TF? Interested to see them fitted;)

[countrydude]

Fairly simple fitting. I don't know the full details. I'll do a photo how to guide when I get on to it. I think the holes in the hub need elongating slightly to pick up the threads on the calipers, the discs are the mgtf which I'm thinking should be a straight fit but I may have to turn down to 295mm No biggie though as there is a lathe on the farm;) I don't know how to use it mind, I'll have to be polite to Father but that isn't unheard of these days!

[G51 NAV]

Yeah, ever since day one the engine has been much better than the brakesso up to factory standards then lol.

[countrydude]

I tried with the paw big brake kit from day one but it just doesn't cut it. So it's not like I didn't try!

I can't imagine the 8v turbo on standard brakes! My diesel estate has that setup! It carries a lot of weight so could be comparable but I wouldn't feel comfortable.

[G51 NAV]

Both of my MG Turbos are on standard brakes and they're completely different. MGT#502 doesn't brake it comes to a gradual standstill over a distance of several miles (lol), whereas MGT#396 isn't half bad at all. Both of them are bled, both of them have nearly new discs and pads and neither of them seem to leak. It's most strange.

[countrydude]

I had a similar thing on this maestro. the r clip came out of the brake pedal and rather than getting to the cause of it I ordered a new master cylinder the next day. When I finally realised the real cause the new cylinder was fitted and blead. Although there was no failure of it the new cylinder has converted the braking. It could be the same with yours. A partial leak causing mediocre braking, mine was the worst case of a low milage but old car. If yours is the same I'd advise renewal.

[G51 NAV]

Yeah it's something I'll look into when I come round to putting it on the road in June. It's been like this since I bought it many years ago and I've never truly got to the bottom of it, even though over the years it's had new brakelines, pads and discs, and it keeps passing an MOT.

[countrydude]

Keep an eye of fleebay and other sources for a bargain between now and then as mine cost around £67 from unipart. My previous one was around £20!

[Jumturbo]

My brakes are almost standard and I'd describe them as ok. i uprated the fronts to grooved discs and went for 'Greenstuff' pads and they work quite well. You can tell the difference however when you get into the ZTT!:D
in comparison to some old American Muscle cars, like the 67 Dodge Charger (General Lee) the MG MMs can stop on a ninepence! The Charger had a whopping 7.2 litre 300 odd bhp engine that did 0-60 in 6 secs! and the brakes?....drums all round!:eek:

[countrydude]

Greenstuff are described as oe replacements, the grooved discs will be giving you more bite. Still a repeated high speed braking and on standard brakes the fade will be chronic. Not that I drive really fast all the time but I'd like to do a track day at some point, I don't want to be cooking my brakes in 5 mins when I do.

[Jumturbo]

Oh, I thought Greenstuff were one up on standard replacement? Certainly at close on £50 a set you'd expect so! EBC do list a standard replacement and these are only about £20 a set. As far as I can recall, Greenstuff are for fast road and certainly have performed ok for me with no fade so far and i have done some spirited driving!:D I don't intend screwing the car round a track though!:D

[Jumturbo]

You had me going there cd, just had a scan on the web. EBC Ultimax are the oe replacement, Greenstuff are a performance upgrade;)

http://www.ebcbrakesdirect.com/?source=googleebc&keyword=EBC%20brake%20pads&gclid=CMWQ9tybmqgCFQRP4QodqT9LCw

[countrydude]

I honestly don't think there is much in it though, as I said the main benefit will be your grooved discs. I have yellowstuff pads on my maestro which are quite good. Shame we don't have any other choice for the standard calipers. Only EBC seem to make anything above OE replacement these days.

I got my yellow stuffs for around £50 delivered from a supplier I found on triple M, he is on ebay, jrt automotive. Maybe there isn't much price difference between them.

[countrydude]

dup

[Jumturbo]

I think the Greenstuff I got were a deal on ebay, I paid just over £40 inc delivery. I find them pretty good, but I'll try the yellowstuff next time......twill be a while before the greens wear out though!

[countrydude]

Oh, well that isn't too bad all in. The yellow stuff pads are ok, they withhold temperature a bit better than most and aren't useless when cold as some might tell you.

[Russ]

I bought greenstuff for my metro mainly for the reduced brake dust claim and to be honest they arnt that great and they still make quite a lot of dust. I have ultimax on the ZR and they seem just as good so when the maestro comes round to needing some it will be ultimax. Remember my cars are standard and Norfolk roads dont lent themselves for too much fast driving. When I lived in Yorkshire it was mintex 171s and racing brake fluid,but great roads.

[Philip Young]

Is there a brake-disc upgrade available that is straight bolt-on easy replacement for the standard Austin Maestro 1.6 (1986 model) that is ventilated, but not drilled or grooved-discs? ie, something off another model, that is a straight fit?

[E_T_V]

Yes and no.

The PAW kit uses 285mm discs, the standard calipers and some spacer brackets. Discs need a spigot ring and drilling to suit the maestro PCD. (You can buy them off the shelf to fit if you want rather than DIY make the kit).

[E_T_V]

Pics of it on my car.

Plain discs are also available.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2709/4160438355_397c380ea3_z.jpg?zz=1

[countrydude]

I fitted groved and drilled cbc turbo discs to my monty estate with ferodo pads that are still plentiful and cheap on fleebay. I found this enough for my engine and weight of produce load, depends what you are doing to the engine.

[Philip Young]

Thanks...I was rather hoping to aovid grooved or grooved and drilled discs, as they wear the pads out a lot faster. Is there not a bigger, venitlated disc off a Montego? Or are all discs the same, regardless of model?

[countrydude]

They are all the same size, they are just ventilated or not for different models. You will stilll get good mileage from pads with a grooved disc. Or the paw kit will fit under a 5.5j cross spoke or mgf alloys.

[E_T_V]

All montegos/maestros got the same sized front discs. The only option was vented or non vented which depended on the engine size fitted.

The PAW kit can be got with plain discs as well as slotted and/or drilled ones.

I've got the plain ones on my turbo and the slotted ones on my van.

[Hcorbs]

Have you made any progress with the MGF calipers/discs? Interested in doing the same myself and would like to know what's involved.

[countrydude]

I have the calipers ready to fit, just waiting for father to have an afternoon spare so he can take a few more mm of the discs.

It is a very simple mod, take the old calipers and carrier off the hub, extend the spacing slightly on the hub as the bolt spacing on the mgtf calipers is wider than standard. Take the calipers down to around 299mm from 304mm

I'll confirm what they end up being when all is fitted. I messed up the measurement and went under by 3.5mm that was with the hub off the car so this should be spot on as I had everything in situ this time.

[Mike Brock]

So chaps is there a huge difference in brake performance between paw and tf set up?

[countrydude]

from 1 piston to 4...