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Diesel Dave
29th June 2009, 22:25
Hello. A week ago I had a collision with a rock someone had deliberately placed in the road. The sump was squashed - took 5 hours to remove. And the oil pick up pipe was bent but intact. I have replaced both of these and used the car for a day, 25 miles, but it suddenly cut out and has gone from starting and running but cutting out with throttle, to only starting while turning key.
I suspect this is fuel feed related.

I must add that the sump did lose a lot of oil but wasn't empty when I finally removed it. You could take the dipstick out but not put it back. I drove appx 2 miles after the accident, I was concerned about being stranded in a vulnerable position.

The rigid pipes around the sump were twisted but not kinked and I have been able to put them sort of as they should be. The rubber pipe from the sump to the brather was slightly split and I have replaced it.

Any ideas will be gratefully received.

David

Diesel Dave
29th June 2009, 22:34
Here is a http://www.davidakroyd.com/maestro_squashed_sump.JPG
I have straightened all the pipes and used a different sump. I have also chaged the gearbox mount as well. The car has new oil and a filter. It wasn't noisy and sounded pretty normal until the current problem.
David

maestro vans
29th June 2009, 23:22
I have never owned a diesel, but reading through your thread, is it likely that the twisted pipes that you straightened and repositioned may have been kinked somewhere. Only after driving 25 miles etc this has caused the kink etc to open a a hole and be drawing air into the fuel delivery hose. Obviously I would expect diesel to be leaking out thou. Sounds as you say like a fuel feed issue. Might be worth giving the suspect pipes a good look over once more.

maestro vans

E_T_V
30th June 2009, 08:29
No fuel pipes run at the front of the engine. If the rock went all the way down the car and out of the back then check the fuel lines running down the length of the car (particularly the offside one). If holed the engine will suck air instead of fuel from the tank and give a no-start. Equally check there is fuel in the tank! A dent in the bottom of it will cause it to read it has fuel even when it hasn't got any in.

Try running it from a can of fuel under the bonnet to prove the engine is ok. (disconnect the fuel hose from the tank side of the lift pump and put the hose into a can of diesel).
If the engine runs ok then you've at least isolated the possible cause to the fuel lines/tank.

Diesel Dave
1st July 2009, 12:47
Thanks for that. i will try that. Hope it works else I will be selling it as spares or repair.
MOT runs till Jan and it only has 52,000 miles on it so it is a bit of a tragedy.

guussi
13th July 2009, 22:04
the sump is very vulnerable as i too had a hole in my TD sump....

i got mine mig welded....i think we all need sump guards

With any car problem its a process of illimination :banghead:
dont assume - take off and check all associated bits

but never give up;)

Diesel Dave
1st October 2009, 00:34
Well I was about to give up and sel the car as spares and repair, but.. a friend came round and we checked everything.

We bled the fuel system and found that the pipe from the Lift Pump was not fully secured, the nut was loose. After the tightening and bleeding the system, the car is back in roadworthy condition.

Thanks for all your help

guussi
1st October 2009, 09:11
Faint heart never won fair lady sir!

its amazing how the nuts get loose over time must be all the chugging and rattles from old perky! lmao
A little thread lock not permanent seal may also help:p

chrisl
1st October 2009, 20:22
Did you say rock, looks more like a mountain has hit it!:eek:

C